All of my bishopric meeting was run through Google Docs. I wrote the post with the assumption that everyone runs their meetings according to the spirit. The fact is, if youre not following the spirit, then anything else youre doing (or not) in meetings is moot. Been there, done that, experienced that! He Is Risen: A Prophets Testimony, Receiving Personal Guidance at Stake Conference, The Atonement and the Journey of Mortality, Celebrating Each Others Accomplishments, Church Releases New Products for Youth, Children, Heather Whittle Wrigley and Philip M. Volmar, Added Focus on Ministering Strengthens Visiting Teaching, Prophets.LDS.org Features New Biographies of Living Apostles, President Packer Teaches at Seminary Centennial, Ward Councils at Work, Ensign, Apr. If my tech distracts you, get over it. is thinking.I could be out with my presidency visiting families. If there isn't/wasn't then you haven't made it to happily ever after. Pam, I agree that ward council often descends into gossip. Rarely do people enjoy attending meetings but we still discover ways to plan more meetings. The thought just entered my mind. I love that quote you mentioned. Its not exactly their fault if they dont know how to conduct a meeting. For example: Yearly planning meetings Plan for the entire year. Thought Id follow up on my previous comment. Basic LDS (Mormon) gospel principles are organized according to beliefs we have for the Premortal, Mortal and Postmortal lives. Then implement their feedback. every other meeting would be done over a conference call we found ways to make it effective by doing certain types of discussions over the phone/video while others might be saved for face-to-face. We had a hurricane come through our city. Delegate or die I love it! Calling peoples ideas dumb isnt the best way to have an effective dialogue that results in better ideas. The bishop isnt there to receive revelation; he is there to confirm revelation. If things were crazy at home and his family needed more attention, one quick text message would free up his evening; as a counselor, he didnt have that luxury. If someone on the council has reason to not come to the meeting or, quite frankly, doesnt want to be in the meeting, then they should have the right to not be there. ), The ward clerk keeps a record of assignments and decisions made during ward council meetings. Instead people are asked to participate and then given the right to exersize their Agency to agree or decline. Thanks again. That will be the greatest contribution to having a revelatory experience. Once a month, all ward council members and their counselors and secretaries gathered at the church. Hold a meeting to have a meeting. The most common problems faced in creating a cohesive and inspired ward council may include: I was blessed to work with an extremely inspired bishop who, over the course of time, successfully transformed the ward council from one that looked like the problematic picture painted above into a highly-functioning, vision-driven, and unified ward council. You will find that not much is impacted by fewermeetings. Removing his voice as the main (dominant) voice of the meeting had the additional effect of people listening more to one another and to the Spirit. And yet we are all Children of our Father in Heaven! Ward Activities. Efficient meetings still require that people prepare. Remember Life is a Test! I have generally been involved in music and managed to avoid lengthy council meetings. Left: photo illustration by JoshuaJ. Perkey. When I'm in my car running errands, going on trips - I love to sing along to country music. On the other hand, the Spirit should be allowed to break that rule. I hope it helps those individuals reassess their approach to meetings and have better revelatory experiences. Required fields are marked *. "Cultivate an attitude of happiness. The presiding authority or the conductor should cut it off politely and reconduct the meeting. Thats when spiritual synergy happens. I like tech and believe it helps me be more efficient. If we continue to honor the meetings of the past, then well never change meetings of the future. For the sake of brevity, and manners, I wont go into detail. Some are even mandating ward council to be held weekly. They had caught the vision! Plus it gave me a break from having to attend so many meeting! We are on fire!!! If I had the wish of my heart, I would remove from the vocabulary of the Latter-day Saints the word meeting. Have a night when the stake presidency and the high council bring their wives and listen to 60 minutes of missionary reports while eating ice cream. Councils are led by the voice of the Spirit through each member of the body not by the bishop exerting his will. Its a waste of peoples time to review a list of announcements, activity details, dates, etc. Deeply entrenched in LDS culture, teachings, and scripture is the concept of councils as a primary tool for accomplishing the work of the Church. By virtue of his keys, he has to acknowledge it and affirm it, but he doesnt necessarily have to be the only vehicle through whom it comes. The Lord has prepared ways for His children to be protected and loved, she thought. Appropriate activities could include: Stage a Christ-centered open house at your local meetinghouse. Life is too short to be miserable and unhappy in the church and in life! We valued both diversity and unity, but releasing a member should never be done in a spirit of spite or punishment. True leaders will continue to work with that member, but when it is clear that unity cannot be achieved so that the council might act as a single revelatory body, the bishop would be wise to weigh the needs of the ward and consider replacing that individual. I think your points can help us swing the pendulum back to more honest calling magnification. We would then have time for the important items on the agenda. They areasked to. And on the bright side I do believe there will be better members, better leaders, and better meetings in the next life! Because 60minutes of people being unprepared is still as ineffective as 90min or 2 hours of people being unprepared. Friday, January 13, 2023 Thought for the Day 1/13/2023 Friday Tale - A Miracle Morning Not all wards need to do this, but if a ward needs to do blitzes, it should do blitzes. It takes a very good meeting to be better than no meeting at all., (Said at my stake conference in Concord, NH.). I think one thing that I learned as an Elders Quorum President and a Sunday School President was to send my counselors to the Ward Council and PEC meetings! by Leading Saints | Mar 8, 2015 | Bishops, Elders Quorum, Podcast Episodes, Primary Presidencies, Ward Council, Ward Mission Leader | 95 comments, Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed. Many members need help finding work. I have sat in wonderment at some of the things said about people. Doctrine and Covenants 6:36 Look unto me in every thought; doubt not, fear not. A stake council includes the three members of the stake presidency, 12 high councilors and the stake clerk. We did so much with those kids that 10 years later they still talk about their Primary Days and are using our ideas in their own presidencies. I remember this from a bishop I served with as a councilor years ago. The ward council meeting is one of the most important meetings in the Church, wrote Elder M.Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, because priesthood quorum and auxiliary leaders can discuss and plan with the bishopric. We used to have the prayer meetings before our meetings as a teacher and although they written 5 minutes long, still it was enough time for announcements and a prayer. In Liverpool, New York, USA, as Primary president Melissa Fisk attended ward council meeting, she gained insight into its power. I received a message from Elder Ward, one of the missionaries in my Ward yesterday morning asking me to checkout Twitter. Some members eventually leave the church altogether, or go inactive! It should be a testimony, not a travel log. Learn, share then go & do is my motto with this stuff. Offer a Handel's Messiah event to the public. The bishop recognized that his ideas and experiences alone were insufficient, so he engaged the other four of us (two counselors, clerk, and executive secretary) regularly and without ego. This is easier said than done because creating an agenda takes planning and preparation. I couldnt agree more! Honey.I have the Ward Council to go to. If you havent read the guest post, You Are Not to Take Over, its worth a read. The author doesnt mean to impose them, but it is a good exercise reading them and getting what benefits you. Second, focus on people, not programs. Pursue the integration of new members, activation of the less active, concerns of the youth, the economic plight of individual members, and the needs of single mothers and widows.. Droundy, I think is foolish to think that you can limit every meeting to sixty minites for instance high council meeting where missionaries report thier mission ,with the increased number of missionary there just isnt enough time in sixty minite meeting due to the number of missionarys .Remember Its the Lords work and as long as your making progress then a few more minites of our time wont hurt. The branch council finds that the members challenges can often be solved at the local level. (1) when an issue takes up time at a meeting that could easily (or even more effectively) be dealt with in an email; But in the end there is a planning calendar developed and a year long budget developed. Would he complain and be miserable or make the best out of the situation. maybe, but it seems to me that were seeing this kind of thinking more and more. If the missionaries come with very prepared progress records and report the most important things and needs, then the other, less-important things can just be written on the progress record to keep the leadership informed. If you cant see how the meeting can stay under an hour, just cancel it because you arent ready to hold a meeting. The short story for me is to ignore the hyperbole of the article, and embrace the tips that make me a better meeting leader. I think many people would be interested in that topic. I have just received revelation to postpone our stake relief society evaluation meeting. When we got there the meeting was closed as we had gone over (over what I dont know). The bottom line leaders needs to be sensitive to the time demands on members, have an agenda and run meetings as efficiently as possible, and follow the Spirit. Below is an outline of how our council was inspired to restructure the agenda your council could use this as a template or a starting place. When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. I believe, the message that went out about 15 years ago about not having so many meetings and the teachings around Family responsibility (without further tuning of the message) has resulted in some unanticipated consequences. Thus, once it is returned to the organization, efforts need to be made at the council level to keep the visits going. Pretty much spot on. There are still those that are hanging onto tradition, however, After this next generation, I think itll be gone. We also created a Google Sheet version of the. Ha haIm a bishop actually. They have different levels of education, knowledge, backgrounds, training, experence, culture, expectations, gospel maturity, etc. Some may argue over the details of what an agenda is. Pray to understand their needs and what you can do then step out of the way and let the Lord do his work. In Puerto Francisco de Orellana, an isolated village in the jungles of Ecuador, members have a strong bond of love and faith. Thank you so much for this great post. Do you disagree? If you need help with not getting carried away in a meeting, your next meeting should have a kitchen timer present. His BA in International Studies doesnt do much in the IT industry where he works as a software product manager for Salt Lake City-based Samaritan Technologies. I am excited to hear of your success with your approach. Some leaders are great at running meetings and others really need to work on keeping meetings to an hour or less. Set it for 60 minutes and tell everyone in the room they are free to walk out once that timer sounds. The young women could help with babysitting, said the Young Women president. The Relief Society president represents the women in the ward over the age of 18. Rifling through papers is inefficient and time consuming. From Battlefield to Mission Field; The Faith of a Child; FATHERHOOD. It will also remind the group members to complete assignments previously made. Those phone calls we were prepared, we felt the spirit and we went ahead all in about 10-15 minutes. A simple place to start is searching for the definition of priesthood keys on lds.org. Use a timer! For an interesting different take on things, I would suggest checking this book out (its out of print, so go to your local library or AMAZON for a used copy its cheap) and relate to Elder Bednars teachings about seeking inspiration to do what the Lord wants us to do. Removing the Poison of an Unforgiving Spirit . 22 Inspirational Quotes Just for the Youth 2 Comments depression inspirational inspirational quotes lds lds inspirational mormon mormon inspirational motivational youth advice The perfect birthday, baptism, mission gift for any woman in you life. I hope to use some of your suggestions to improve my meetings. The exception would be for ward activity planning: we need to know whom to invite and what activities, games, meals, etc., would appeal to a broad or target audience. Some came prepared, most did and exceptionally so but those that didnt could tell they were missing out on a very spiritual moment. We can't wait to see you in the morning! Here are three big NOs for how to avoid administrative topics in meetings. I should have used different wording to express my point. If your tech distracts you, then get rid of it. Rule 8 Do not establish unbreakable rules of Church meetings by doing so you may limit or constrain the Spirit; we should allow the Lord to direct us in our meetings through the Spirit. Having these as goals is important, but if Bishop just isnt a good meeting leader, Ill cut him some slack, maybe try to help him out, and focus on what he does bring to the table. How would you like to spend council time? Purchase one of our Spiritually Minded is Life Eternal (SMILE) Bracelets [wp_ad_camp_1] Ive served in the RS and primary presidencies for the last four years. In our council, those who were unwilling to align themselves with the vision and culture (after being given multiple chances) were eventually released from their callings. In a pinch, Ive been able to provide music without any hymn books available using my phone, and yes, it accidentally rang once while I was playing. Our Ward Council meetings have historically lasted 90 minutes. The monthly branch council reflects their caring. If we truly believe in revelation, there is no need for a time limit. This same idea could also be used in the various church organizations. If you need ideas to a problem, an activity, or whom to call to a position, ask people to prepare this in advance and bring the ideas to the meeting. If the church leaders would wake up and admit, IT IS I! To learn more about succeeding in your calling, visit the Leadership Training Library, available in several languages at leadershiplibrary.lds.org. Yesterday, due to Ward Conference, it was made known beforehand that Ward Council would only be 45 minutes. Thanks for writing this article. While we worked to renew temple recommends, reactivate, baptize, etc., our focus was to help members cultivate their relationship with God. "The laughter of the world is merely loneliness pathetically trying to reassure itself.". You just might have to schedule a meeting specifically to address admin. Can you help me reconcile Jensens statement with what your saying? AGENDA. Here are my observations of how this bishop achieved so much: Meetings, callings, the church itself: are all pointless unless there is a vision. If you need more time, go talk to the Executive Secretary and schedule another interview. In time, the Bishop asked his counselors to have one-on-one discussions with ward council members to receive their candid feedback on the ward council meeting, specifically: One hundred percent of the responses were right in line with what he had hoped for: by this time, council members really wanted to spend meeting time discussing the progress of individuals and families. So, to go back to the earlier comment about too few meetings, I think that while we become more effective in any given time frame, a lot of us need to spend more time coaching and training and leading just maybe not with everyone in the room. I think we need to do the best we can with what we have. It is so much easier to cancel a meeting if it is unneeded than to try to coordinate everyones schedule and plan a meeting that is needed, but not on the calendar. He comes to ward council meeting prepared to suggest ways members can improve learning and teaching at church and in their homes.. If you are suggesting that anyone who shows up at a meeting looking for marching orders from the presiding authority is doing it wrong, then I agree. Nobody enjoys them and they need to stop. So, assume the bishop is misguided until he confirms a final decision. I never really noticed this dynamic until I was bishop, but many times the bishop feels like people are waiting on him to come up with an idea or to lead the discussion in a certain direction. The same goes with any point made in the article. People werent made for clocks; clocks were made for people. Heavenly father doent stop in the middle of our life cause the timer went off or say sorry cant help i already spent my 60 minites. If you dont, spend time sitting next to a 2 year old in a Sacrament meeting that goes long. I am not sure if this is an appropriate venue for posting this, but here is a link to a google sheet that will enable a unit leader to make a customized Bishopric and Sacrament Meeting Template. Her perspective will be beneficial when the ward council is considering an issue that affects the children of the ward. Thank you for commenting. And while we do accomplish much and generally remain focused on the task at hand, input and involvment drastically drops after an hour. And it may take several Saturdays to accomplish this year long plan. This gives the rest of the group time to prepare so that the meeting and discussions are more to the point and effective. They have vowed NEVER to do that to their families: The result? Why should I be inconvenienced so that I can conform to a luddite version of proper meeting etiquette? Exactly, including the Bishop, RS President, EQ President, YW President, etc. They love to micro-manage everything! But we have a certain amount of work that needs to be done, and rushing through a meeting and having people get up and leave when a timer goes off is a silly suggestion, in my view. Good direction here, but I think it does need to be said. Preparation or the lack thereof can speak to the spiritual maturity of your councilors, or the circumstances they find themselves in. Unless the organizations have their own presidency meetings, leaders will bring out to the ward council ANY problem they have related with their calling. Or they are afraid to step outside the BOX! Aug 29, 2021 - Explore Melinda Manley's board "Ward Council Spiritual Thought", followed by 334 people on Pinterest. Ill add another thing. Once the bishop has sought inspiration on the base of a vision for his ward, and it is discussed, refined, augmented, and finally solidified by the Spirit in discussion with the bishopric council, it is ready to be taken to the ward council for their input and suggested improvements. Articles and resources related to basic beliefs and the essentials of church doctrine in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Our best presidency meetings happened while I was away. Now having said that, there are things we can do that can make our meetings more effective and efficient, some of which were mentioned, but they are hardly unbreakable. One time I was a Primary President and I was on bedrest for 6 weeks with my 3rd baby. Your email address will not be published. Tell them you want to talk and get feedback on how your meetings are going. The primary work of the ward council takes place in living rooms where tears are shared and dried, and testimony is borne. Executive secretaries should prepare agendas in advance. I cant imagine having the spirit burning strongly while someone relates a spiritual experience only to have it interrupted by a timer. No Downloading Information: Dont inform for the sake of informing. The Sunday School president is responsible for all gospel instruction during Sunday School. As an example, If the Spirit requires to meet longer than an hour on an issue so be it. The stake president moved things around so people werent out so late. The Primary president represents the children of the ward ages 18 months through 11 years. A ward disciplinary council consists of four people: the ward's bishop and his two counselors and the ward clerk. If you dont give the meeting a time limit, it will grow out of control. As we would test and determine which practices had a positive effect on our bishopric meetings, wed introduce them to the ward council. M.Russell Ballard, Counseling with Our Councils: Learning to Minister Together in the Church and in the Family (1997), 102. If the HC needs to hear the missionary report, attend the sacrament meeting when he/she speaks. If you prioritize properly, the excess beyond sixty minutes can be handled outside HC or left until next week. We learn in the temple that the Spirit can be restrained in its effectiveness if the unified body isnt truly unified. Have you ever noticed that people almost never complain when a meeting goes a few minutes long, but when it ends short, they lose their minds? They were painful. While that is true, there are many times looking things up online (even on Facebook) to see something relevant to the meeting (that you may not have known about prior to the meeting) is necessary and can help avoid future meetings. Or week by week. Having an agenda makes a HUGE difference in the effectiveness of a presidency meeting. But assuming the leader is mis-guided is the wrong way to state it. I do not know how long it will lastprobably 2 hours or more.I will try to be home at 7 pm. by mcdarby Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:07 am. Like I said above, the longer a meeting goes, the more creativity diminishes. The wrong way to state it done because creating an agenda makes a HUGE difference in church... Use some of your success with your approach truly unified a luddite version of proper meeting etiquette principles. 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